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Define...Maxi Scooter

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Define...Maxi Scooter
« on: June 22, 2017, 04:35:44 PM »
I was prompted to post this topic from another forum as it got me thinking....

So an Aprilia 850 is definitely a maxi scooter and a yamaha mio 115 is definitely not.

However, where is the line drawn where a scooter ends and a maxi scooter starts?

In my opinion a Maxi scooter`s key differences are:

The ability to ride long journeys at higher speeds (motorway speeds)
Keeping the passenger a lot more comfortable over longer distances
Keeping the passenger more protected from the wind to allow longer journeys to be more comfortable.
Being more stable at higher cruising speeds.
The ability to carry a lot more luggage.

That's the way I see it. I would like to hear other peoples views on it.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2017, 05:13:53 PM by steve »
 
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Re: Define...Maxi Scooter
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2017, 05:43:07 PM »
"The ability to ride long journeys at higher speeds (motorway speeds)"


I believe that is what differentiates a maxi from the other scooters. For the most part, this requires that the scooter have at least a 250cc engine.
 

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Re: Define...Maxi Scooter
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2017, 02:30:30 AM »
Good project!

I think wheels no smaller than 13 inches, larger cross-section tires than a Vespa, wheel base 20% longer, engine 250 cc minimum, more than one resettable odometer. Something obviously more serious than a 10" skinny-tire trip to the latte parlor fashion statement.

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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2017, 03:51:43 AM »
Kymco Super 8 125/150 and Yamaha NMax 150i is heavy and bulky than other scooter thus it fall in Maxi scooter  category or not.
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Re: Define...Maxi Scooter
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2017, 04:54:51 AM »
Yes the 150 is quite heavy. I upped mine to 163cc which improved it a lot but still not sure they would be classed as maxis
 

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Re: Define...Maxi Scooter
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2017, 06:43:00 AM »
250 is the smalllest displacement that can be seriously considered for a cruiser. Now, if a 150 is super or turbo charged and intercooled in a Burg cradle or Downtown cradle is another matter.

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Re: Define...Maxi Scooter
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2017, 07:04:20 AM »
Good project!

I think wheels no smaller than 13 inches, larger cross-section tires than a Vespa, wheel base 20% longer, engine 250 cc minimum, more than one resettable odometer. Something obviously more serious than a 10" skinny-tire trip to the latte parlor fashion statement.



 

Dang it Karl, you just bumped my Helix off the list!  I have a 12 inch front tire and a big fat 10 inch rear tire that NEVER goes to the latte parlor.  :)
 

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Re: Define...Maxi Scooter
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2017, 09:42:08 PM »
Ah, gee! Shrink that wheel size!!

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Re: Define...Maxi Scooter
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2017, 04:16:08 AM »
Thats the main reason I didn't go for a Suzuki burgman
 The tiny wheels
 

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Re: Define...Maxi Scooter
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2017, 10:21:38 PM »
Well, how big are the wheels on a Burg?

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Re: Define...Maxi Scooter
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2017, 12:58:08 AM »
Well, how big are the wheels on a Burg?
I think they are 12"
 

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Re: Define...Maxi Scooter
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2017, 05:15:07 AM »
For me it's the challenge of highway travel. If the bike can travel at 65 mph, or higher it's good. Next, the rider should be comfortable doing that on long day trips. My first bike was a Kymco Yager 200i. It's top speed was 70 mph, but I only got it up to 68 on the freeway. I've taken it on hour long freeway rides, but would not be comfortable doing anything longer. I wouldn't call it
a Maxi.

My current bike is a Kymco Downtown 300i, which has a top speed of 90. I've taken it up to 85 fully loaded with a cargo bag, items under the seat, in the top case and my computer page in the step through space. It did this with a sense of more power under hood as they say. This was also on a 12 hour trip to Canada.

For me that's a Maxi-scooter.

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Re: Define...Maxi Scooter
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2017, 05:38:03 AM »
Wow! 12 hours is impressive  :)
That also really reflects the spirit of what Maxi scooters are all about.
Totally agree with the comments about freeway riding. For me it's not only the ability to "do" 60-80mph. It's the ability to do it comfortably, not only for the rider but the scooter being comfortable for the engine to deliver those speeds.
One major benefit from the extra weight of a Maxi scooter is it's stability at cruising speeds which is a massive help on long journeys along with the extra wind deflection usually provided on most models.
 

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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2017, 10:51:12 PM »
I agree with scooterwolf.  If you can cruise comfortably and safely at 65 mph for long periods of time while loaded for touring, you are probably riding a maxi.

I could ride my PCX150 at 60 mph for a while but it was uncomfortably light and felt it was at the limit of it's capabilities.  IMO that's not riding safely.
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